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It's very exciting to see everybody.

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Come to the university Scholars series for all

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 landing knowledgement and some of the other issues and

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See, you told me you look at me said I wouldn't break it. You

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Nope, dude. Thanks.

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Oh, it's not playing. Yeah.

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Well, I will read it myself.

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And I apologize. I have a handwritten copy

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I have to thank of course a lot of the sponsors that help make this

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 is paying attention from the Provost office the library

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So with that, let me just do a quick introduction for those

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 know Keenan. He's an associate professor recently promoted.

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I will I will say early as well with quite the bit of

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 honors and Flair. It's an outstanding accomplishment for

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He's his work has been acknowledged a

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He's been he's been the editor and chief of Reed magazine the 2019

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So, it's really exciting to have him here today

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 of Planet, California Keenan, please. Thank you.

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transparent, California

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the State of the State of Planet, California and

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Um, Noel Breda Williams are chair in

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I'll get to that.

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 could see what was drawing the masses of Californians

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 of San diegoans to the country

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 a lot of money. So an individual

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 equity membership.

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I I had to go through a little bit of a process to find these figures

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 they're not publicly available is the

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 You see there? I can't

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 afford any of that. Even on my associate

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 professor salary. That's that's just not happening.

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 member membership, which is a little

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 could probably afford the

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 basic National membership, but I've aged out of having

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 five roommates. Unfortunately, I have

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 not aged in to getting rich. So this is this is

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 the you know, the basic problem and I will

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 is, you know, pretty pretty

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 casual compared to

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 the most exclusive country clubs in LA.

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There you see Los Angeles is most

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 exclusive country clubs including the original

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180,000 Initiation fee. They

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Right our current forty six dollars a unit

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concerted push in our community colleges kind of

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 as a really a canary in the coal. Mine of

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higher education for no tuition

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 no tuition approach as San Diego

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said to me so we'll talk

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 about all that but

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Really as I said the you know,

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 if you went when this essay comes out when my

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 transparent California essay comes

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 out in Alta literary magazine in

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 January this year. You can read all about my attempts to

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 enter the inner sanctum of

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San Diego's Country Club

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and just see what happens so

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Let's see I did. However.

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Go to San Diego City College, right?

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 It was a little Easter to get in there San Diego.

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 Of course, like all border towns is a dual citizen, right

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 both Mexican and American and that becomes

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from the ethnic demography to

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 the kind of spatial and

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 environmental difference that you see as you move

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 from space of the space of Rolling Green

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 Fairways and all those other terms

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 golf terms that I don't know greens Fairways.

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on to San Diego City College, right, which is just this.

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weave this kind of weave of

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 Concrete Construction one, you know

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 one massive building after the next and one

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here, let me just I'll move through

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 this real quickly, but

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it stands again direct contrast.

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 I want to mention just really quickly and this

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 speaks more to Los Angeles Country Club, but Malcolm Gladwell

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Talks about the allocation of Green Space

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 right in cities and specifically how country clubs

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 take up so much of our Green Space.

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this became kind of starkly the

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when at San Diego City College I

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 happened on

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These two girls who were rotating around

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 a planner box. They were walking around a planter box.

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 I was there on the first day of classes. I should I should say and they

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 were taking pictures the planter

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Peering into it occasionally snapping pictures.

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When I asked them what they were doing told me that.

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They had on the first class of the semester

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 a photography class. They told me they loved wildlife.

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As they shared their captors grasshoppers first on

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 green stocks and butterflies poised upon

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And meanwhile, very poignantly the Bank of America building and

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 new apartment construction and the

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 city College's own massiveness Rose All

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all around us

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right shroudiness and Shadow

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that

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that spatial environmental difference.

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is really is very Stark and

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 it again really just points to the

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the necessary role that public education in general

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 and particularly the Community College

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serves

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okay going to the no tuition approach and this

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they're really what I am doing my

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two interviews one via zoomed either

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 in person with President Shabazz

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But really what I came to just kind of

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 streamlining.

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My you know what? I took away

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 from our talk.

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Was that the notes wishman approach?

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Is part of a broader expansion what in

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 shabazz's vision is part of a broader expansion of

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 the role of the community college in higher education quote if we're

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 saying that the community college student having their associate degree.

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Is equally prepared is that incoming freshmen to a university?

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We have to start making a case for community colleges offering bachelor's

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 degrees. That is the next phase of

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 this. No tuition approach.

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And so I found this really interesting right? I

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 found this really interesting when you work

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 at a community college as many of y'all know.

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A lot of things are piloted. A lot

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 of Education initiatives a lot of pedagogical approaches. A

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 lot of tuition approaches are piloted

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 at community college's before they reach universities

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 right a lot of online platforms

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 for teaching our piloted at

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 Community College before they reach universities. There

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 are a lot of reasons for that.

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but

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I want to just kind of sit with that that basic

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 reality that I've observed.

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In teaching at these different levels over the course of my career.

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 I think it's highly likely that

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 whether or not shabazz's particular Vision

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 comes to pass that this

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 no tuition approach, which I really see is a necessary confrontation

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 with the expansion of the country club

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 ethos Beyond again, you know, the it's borders

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 it's gates to our downtown streets right

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 to these increasingly

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 expensive.

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You know housing complexes and such.

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that it's necessary confrontation with

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another kind of California that it

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 that is

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That is under construction that is

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 very much under construction in in this

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 crowding. So many people out of

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our cities and you know,

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 unfortunately our state itself so

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all right from San Diego I moved on

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 to

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Los Angeles and the Hollywood Hotel

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Which is helpfully subtitled.

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the hotel of Hollywood

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 say this at the start of our our presentation here

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 or my presentation here. I want to thank our admins

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 and particularly Jasmina Tamayo

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 who did a lot of really helped

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 me a great deal with putting together this

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 pretty complicated.

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You know travel travel arrangements and so forth at one

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 point.

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One of the folks who helped me with booking these

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 hotels that enjoy your trip to Hollywood.

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And it is an understandable confusion

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 because the Hollywood Hotel the hotel of Hollywood

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 is located in East Hollywood, which is

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 a neighborhood in Los Angeles.

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Right and that neighborhood

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 of course does not bear

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 much resemblance at all to the

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 popularly packaged ideas images

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 and so forth of Hollywood

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 and of Los Angeles that you know go out to

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 the world Beyond Los Angeles streets.

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Right, of course when you're actually at the Hollywood Hotel

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 the hotel of Hollywood. You see that there are

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 far more.

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Homeless tents than luxury handbags. You

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 see that there's a

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you know that the that the

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 that the economic conditions and so forth are are ones that

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 we're we're very familiar with here in urban, California, but that

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really contradict

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the the kind of popularly disseminated Notions

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 around what California is

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And what Los Angeles is so there you see some of the economic indices

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 educational indices of East

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I traveled about 20 minutes east.

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of East Hollywood teased Los Angeles College

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That was the college that I visited in.

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in a in Los Angeles

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and what was particularly as I

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The educational experience and the folks who are at community

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College that I that I visited so in San

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 Diego as I said, I spoke it length

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 at a East Los Angeles College. I interviewed

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 several faculty members.

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in the English Department and again, my essay

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 will go into You Know Much Greater depth

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 with this but

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one of the

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running themes of course was

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the toll the particular toll that covid has taken on

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 in East Los Angeles and how that's how

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 that has borne upon.

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the educational experience of East

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LA Times reported that from 2019 to 2021 the

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 death rate for Latinos and LA County increased by 48%

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the death rate of black angelenos by comparison increased

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 23% So, you know

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Have over double the rate of

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 increase or Latinos Asian angelenos 22% and

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 white resident saw seven per six seven point

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 six percent increase in deaths.

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Just speaking very frankly. What was

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oftentimes seen in many more affluent

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 white communities as a minor setback

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 and oftentimes function as a political weapon

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 of War to instigate the recall of

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 government Gavin Newsom was a an existential threat

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 right to many Latinos and

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 people of color in our cities and that's

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 just a

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That's just a fact that.

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A fact about the divisions within our state that is inescapable.

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Chicano studies department chair Beatrice had

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 Tapia said covid quote exploded

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 a lot of what we've been saying for years and no

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 one was listening to

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about the realities of our students.

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In English Professor Ray. Rayanna Gleason

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 said quote. We had a lot

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 of students who had sick parents or parents who died. So then

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 the students had to take on extra financial responsibility.

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East LA is a very working-class student population.

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So most of our students have jobs and familial responsibilities that

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 are significant.

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I see a lot of students who are doing really well academically, but they're

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 like after Dropout for a semester because of you know,

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 financial crisis and then once they drop out

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 for a semester.

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It's really hard to get back. We don't see a

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 lot of people return.

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Despite all this of course.

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the

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educational successes of

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 East Los Angeles College of the second

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 District in general the largest

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00:27:34.300 --> 00:27:34.700
 of the

545
00:27:35.700 --> 00:27:38.100
Community College systems in California

546
00:27:39.300 --> 00:27:42.600
and of our community colleges and

547
00:27:42.600 --> 00:27:45.700
 public education in general are you know our our May

548
00:27:45.700 --> 00:27:48.500
 and this was never was you know,

549
00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:53.100
 no more evident than when I visited with

550
00:27:52.100 --> 00:27:55.000
 I was there I should say

551
00:27:55.800 --> 00:27:57.700
 at East LA college at elac.

552
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.400
They hadn't yet started classes. I went

553
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.500
 to there like PDD day the professional

554
00:28:04.500 --> 00:28:05.200
 development day.

555
00:28:06.300 --> 00:28:08.500
And a couple days before the start of classes.

556
00:28:09.300 --> 00:28:10.600
And so I ended up visiting.

557
00:28:11.800 --> 00:28:14.500
A workshop, you know pedagogy workshop

558
00:28:14.500 --> 00:28:17.700
 with their Rising Scholars Program. Now

559
00:28:17.700 --> 00:28:20.700
 there are different versions of this at the CSU the UC

560
00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:22.700
 and at Stanford.

561
00:28:23.600 --> 00:28:24.100
as well

562
00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:30.900
and so that's one stay here for those

563
00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:33.700
 who are are not familiar. Right? These

564
00:28:33.700 --> 00:28:37.000
 are programs for the formerly incarcerated performly incarcerated

565
00:28:36.300 --> 00:28:40.500
 students. Also, there are a number of professors at elac

566
00:28:39.500 --> 00:28:42.300
 who themselves were formerly

567
00:28:42.300 --> 00:28:45.400
 incarcerated and really the academic successes of formerly

568
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.700
 incarcerated students and other marginalized students, which

569
00:28:48.700 --> 00:28:52.100
 typically have their Genesis in Community College form

570
00:28:51.100 --> 00:28:54.400
 an unreported reality that reaches

571
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.900
 past the statistics of incarceration homelessness and

572
00:28:57.900 --> 00:29:00.500
 addiction that are so commonly deployed

573
00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:03.600
 to ride people of color our communities.

574
00:29:04.300 --> 00:29:05.500
in California itself

575
00:29:09.900 --> 00:29:10.200
from

576
00:29:11.100 --> 00:29:13.300
Los Angeles I traveled up to Fresno.

577
00:29:15.900 --> 00:29:18.200
Fresno CC which I will admit is not my favorite

578
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:18.800
 place in the world.

579
00:29:20.300 --> 00:29:23.300
Um, and if you're from Fresno, it's all good. My family

580
00:29:23.300 --> 00:29:24.700
 is from Fresno, too.

581
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:27.200
and I will

582
00:29:28.600 --> 00:29:31.400
you this this requires a little bit of background, right?

583
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:35.500
 My mother's side after the

584
00:29:35.500 --> 00:29:38.500
 Tulsa Massacre my family

585
00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:43.100
 left, Oklahoma and eventually ended up in California,

586
00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:43.900
 Central Valley.

587
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:45.900
and

588
00:29:47.100 --> 00:29:50.900
the let me just take a look at my notes right here. There's a

589
00:29:50.900 --> 00:29:53.300
 lot I want to say about this. This is actually for me

590
00:29:53.300 --> 00:29:55.700
 the most impactful part of this.

591
00:29:57.100 --> 00:30:00.400
This journey because well for

592
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.500
 a lot of reasons, let me just give

593
00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:05.600
 y'all a little bit of history on.

594
00:30:06.600 --> 00:30:09.200
You know at this point in in our history,

595
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.300
 right migrant labor and farm

596
00:30:12.300 --> 00:30:15.300
 labor in California is very much,

597
00:30:15.300 --> 00:30:18.600
 you know, pretty much almost exclusively associated

598
00:30:18.600 --> 00:30:19.900
 with Latinos, right?

599
00:30:21.800 --> 00:30:24.300
That was not always the case. Of course, there

600
00:30:24.300 --> 00:30:28.100
 are many other groups, you know Filipinos white

601
00:30:27.100 --> 00:30:30.400
 people in black people among others who are in

602
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:31.400
 those fields as well.

603
00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:35.100
So, let's see.

604
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.500
It was into the San Joaquin Valley and into

605
00:30:40.500 --> 00:30:43.500
 the area around Fresno. The thousands of

606
00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:46.800
 African-American families moved in the 1940s to

607
00:30:46.800 --> 00:30:49.500
 escape Jim Crow segregation widespread racial

608
00:30:49.500 --> 00:30:50.500
 violence and poverty.

609
00:30:51.300 --> 00:30:52.800
It's a history. Not many no.

610
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.400
But in a state of 40 million Souls they're at least as many

611
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:56.700
 stories.

612
00:30:57.600 --> 00:31:00.300
Forbade by an Unwritten Jim Crow from

613
00:31:00.300 --> 00:31:04.200
 settling in the cities black folks created favela-like work

614
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.700
 camps on the outskirts.

615
00:31:06.300 --> 00:31:09.500
Which became small unincorporated towns which still stand a

616
00:31:09.500 --> 00:31:13.800
 day tevaston Dos Palos Pixley? Raison

617
00:31:12.800 --> 00:31:15.600
 City where my mother grew up which was

618
00:31:15.600 --> 00:31:18.400
 created decades earlier in 1907, but serves the

619
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:20.200
 same purpose to the stay.

620
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.400
On my second day in Fresno. I leave the city for this

621
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:25.600
 very small place.

622
00:31:27.100 --> 00:31:28.600
Here are the endless grape fields?

623
00:31:30.100 --> 00:31:30.800
Which I've learned.

624
00:31:31.800 --> 00:31:33.900
a lot of people like to call Vineyards

625
00:31:34.700 --> 00:31:36.300
as that suggests fine wine

626
00:31:37.300 --> 00:31:40.400
Even though in between the neatly Road Vines laid on the fine dust or

627
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.600
 spread thin brown paper were upon pick grapes

628
00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:46.000
 or Laden bunches to raise and in

629
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.200
 the sun, right? I'm never heard anybody in my

630
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:50.600
 family referred to a Vineyard.

631
00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:52.500
Them's the fields.

632
00:31:53.600 --> 00:31:56.600
Despite their best efforts the economic Injustice of

633
00:31:56.600 --> 00:31:59.200
 the South followed black people into these

634
00:31:59.200 --> 00:31:59.600
 fields.

635
00:32:00.500 --> 00:32:03.600
Sixth Sense a row they were paid my mother remembers.

636
00:32:04.100 --> 00:32:08.000
1,000 rows a day they worked sunup

637
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.200
 to sundown in the Blazing heat. She

638
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:10.400
 tells me.

639
00:32:11.600 --> 00:32:14.700
$60 in total for the family. She her eight

640
00:32:14.700 --> 00:32:17.700
 siblings her mother and father earned each

641
00:32:17.700 --> 00:32:18.100
 day.

642
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.200
I went back to my hotel and just thought

643
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.800
 for an entire day and an entire night.

644
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.900
About what if anything I could write about

645
00:32:29.900 --> 00:32:30.400
 all this.

646
00:32:33.300 --> 00:32:34.400
What I came to is this.

647
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:36.400
I wonder if a young person.

648
00:32:38.600 --> 00:32:41.200
faced with the same circumstances that my mother came of age

649
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:41.500
 in

650
00:32:42.100 --> 00:32:45.200
would find more or fewer opportunities than she did

651
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.100
 in California's community colleges and to be clear, right?

652
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.500
You know my mother and her family members grew up in really desperate

653
00:32:53.500 --> 00:32:56.600
 conditions. They didn't have indoor plumbing the you know, the whole

654
00:32:56.600 --> 00:32:59.300
 nine yards as they say this was

655
00:32:59.300 --> 00:33:02.300
 before the great Boy cast. This is before the ufw.

656
00:33:04.300 --> 00:33:08.000
While there are many problems today many injustices

657
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.600
 in the field today conditions have

658
00:33:10.600 --> 00:33:14.600
 substantially improved because of Labor

659
00:33:13.600 --> 00:33:15.200
 activism.

660
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.800
because of the work of unions and other other activists

661
00:33:22.500 --> 00:33:26.100
When my my mother went to Fresno State when a professor

662
00:33:25.100 --> 00:33:28.500
 of Fresno State Professor learned that she was from the fields.

663
00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:32.200
 He was shocked right? She ended up getting two

664
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.800
 master's degrees and it's kind of an academic star but kids

665
00:33:34.800 --> 00:33:36.900
 from the field rarely even made it to college.

666
00:33:37.700 --> 00:33:40.000
Right. There's more I could

667
00:33:40.100 --> 00:33:42.600
 say about that, but I'll leave that there for now.

668
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:46.200
I spoke with an Ernesto casarez.

669
00:33:47.600 --> 00:33:50.700
There's there's more information here and it's

670
00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:53.300
 very wordy. But Ernesto cazarus is

671
00:33:53.300 --> 00:33:55.600
 the counselor and the Puente program at Fresno City College.

672
00:33:56.700 --> 00:34:00.000
Puente provides tutoring in writing cohort-based

673
00:33:59.100 --> 00:34:02.300
 instruction and basic

674
00:34:02.300 --> 00:34:05.600
 English critical thinking classes many other

675
00:34:05.600 --> 00:34:06.200
 services.

676
00:34:07.600 --> 00:34:10.700
Um, yeah kazarus acknowledges quote. There aren't

677
00:34:10.700 --> 00:34:13.100
 a whole lot of resources for Farm Workers in

678
00:34:13.100 --> 00:34:14.200
 the children of Farm Workers.

679
00:34:14.900 --> 00:34:17.300
This place is designed for students

680
00:34:17.300 --> 00:34:18.900
 who already have resources.

681
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.700
We do what we can we acquired mobile hotspots

682
00:34:22.700 --> 00:34:25.500
 laptops and tablets, but those weren't enough

683
00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:28.800
 to serve our 20,000 students. We have computer labs, but

684
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.800
 you have to get here and I want to emphasize that for

685
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:32.100
 all the

686
00:34:33.500 --> 00:34:36.100
propaganda in social media and on Fox News

687
00:34:36.100 --> 00:34:39.800
 and on all these, you know conservative networks about the

688
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.400
 blight in the

689
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.000
 streets of Los Angeles in San Francisco and places like this.

690
00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:48.500
Again, the fact is the republican-controlled Fresno.

691
00:34:49.500 --> 00:34:52.900
Has not only now but for

692
00:34:52.900 --> 00:34:55.900
 many years according to several Brookings Institute

693
00:34:55.900 --> 00:34:58.700
 studies over the last 20 years the highest.

694
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.900
Concentrated poverty in California and

695
00:35:03.900 --> 00:35:06.800
 often times in America, right? They did a study in

696
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:11.300
 2006 called Katrina's window after Katrina

697
00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:12.200
 looking at

698
00:35:12.200 --> 00:35:15.300
 concentrated poverty in not just in cities but in

699
00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:17.400
 specific urban areas and west Fresno.

700
00:35:18.500 --> 00:35:21.000
Um, they found had the highest rate of concentrated poverty when

701
00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:24.200
 they came back in 2014 and did the same study. They found

702
00:35:24.200 --> 00:35:27.700
 that it was second to an area just along the Texas Mexico border,

703
00:35:27.700 --> 00:35:32.000
 right? And so that's and

704
00:35:30.100 --> 00:35:33.700
 that really, you

705
00:35:33.700 --> 00:35:33.700
 know,

706
00:35:35.200 --> 00:35:39.200
it's not that the left or the right has a poverty problem California as

707
00:35:38.200 --> 00:35:41.200
 a poverty problem America has a poverty problem

708
00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:44.800
 and we really need to you know, think about it and my view

709
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:45.600
 like that.

710
00:35:48.600 --> 00:35:49.100
All right.

711
00:35:50.500 --> 00:35:52.000
um that said we're you know

712
00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:54.900
Ain't nobody safe here. So

713
00:35:58.700 --> 00:36:01.100
you're at the truth is the Pointe is doing what it can to

714
00:36:01.100 --> 00:36:04.400
 help provide an education of people whom American society largely does

715
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.300
 not care about you know, I'm just gonna be real real here

716
00:36:07.300 --> 00:36:10.400
 and sees as little more than fruit Pickers and Welfare cases when they're

717
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.600
 not being actively hostile toward them on August 26th

718
00:36:13.600 --> 00:36:14.400
 2022.

719
00:36:15.300 --> 00:36:18.900
The ufw the United Farm Workers completed a 355

720
00:36:18.900 --> 00:36:21.300
 mile March to the state capital in Sacramento

721
00:36:21.300 --> 00:36:24.300
 where they called for the passage of assembly Bill 2183.

722
00:36:25.100 --> 00:36:26.900
The bill would have allowed Farm laborers.

723
00:36:27.500 --> 00:36:30.400
To vote remotely in Union elections rather than

724
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:33.100
 only being able to vote in person on grower property.

725
00:36:34.100 --> 00:36:37.300
Union organizers you Union organizers site

726
00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:40.800
 on premises voting as a suppression tool that exposes

727
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.600
 laborers to abuse and intimidation by form

728
00:36:43.600 --> 00:36:45.000
 and surpassing contractors.

729
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.700
That these concerns remain higher despite

730
00:36:48.700 --> 00:36:49.900
 Decades of struggle.

731
00:36:50.900 --> 00:36:53.300
Becomes apparent for me as I

732
00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:56.900
 approach the street facing front of the ufw foundation offices.

733
00:36:59.300 --> 00:37:02.100
opaque privacy glass stairs back at me

734
00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:04.500
reflecting only pieces of myself

735
00:37:05.700 --> 00:37:07.400
and the scattered sunlight behind me.

736
00:37:09.200 --> 00:37:12.200
You get on the same day that ufw Marchers arrived at the

737
00:37:12.200 --> 00:37:15.600
 Capitol Governor Gavin Gavin Newsom owner of plumpjack Winery.

738
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:17.700
promptly vetoed their bill

739
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.900
Bluntly indicating that his grants and liberal progressivism

740
00:37:21.900 --> 00:37:24.100
 ends whereas economic interests begin.

741
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.700
The I also how

742
00:37:31.700 --> 00:37:32.500
 much time do I?

743
00:37:33.100 --> 00:37:34.900
I mean, it's yeah, um

744
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.600
I also went after Fresno to Sonora, California,

745
00:37:39.600 --> 00:37:40.400
 which is

746
00:37:42.500 --> 00:37:46.000
You know going toward Yosemite National Park and Columbia

747
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.400
 College was the college that I visited out there Gold Country.

748
00:37:50.500 --> 00:37:53.200
And gold country is very different from all these other

749
00:37:53.200 --> 00:37:55.200
 places all these big urban areas.

750
00:37:57.100 --> 00:38:00.400
You know, the most obvious difference is that it's over 90% white

751
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.700
 and you know, most of in urban California is obviously

752
00:38:03.700 --> 00:38:06.800
 not and so that's one

753
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.500
 obvious stiff. For instance. There are many other obvious differences,

754
00:38:09.500 --> 00:38:12.600
 but what really struck me more than those

755
00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:15.400
 obvious differences, you know, it's obvious that we live in a divided

756
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:18.900
 state that are opportunities our

757
00:38:18.900 --> 00:38:21.200
 economic opportunities and so forth. There are vastly different

758
00:38:21.200 --> 00:38:23.800
 depending on our stations in life.

759
00:38:24.900 --> 00:38:27.600
But what really struck me were the similarities

760
00:38:27.600 --> 00:38:29.100
 that were hiding in plain sight.

761
00:38:33.200 --> 00:38:36.400
right now all Sonora High School students

762
00:38:37.600 --> 00:38:40.900
who go on to college at

763
00:38:40.900 --> 00:38:43.600
 Columbia College the community college in Sonora Go

764
00:38:43.600 --> 00:38:44.000
 for free.

765
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.700
On top of that. All Columbia college students

766
00:38:48.700 --> 00:38:49.500
 are

767
00:38:50.300 --> 00:38:53.400
have a free semester in Sonora. This is a this is

768
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.500
 a in the middle of a county where 60% of

769
00:38:56.500 --> 00:38:57.600
 Voters voted for Donald Trump.

770
00:38:58.500 --> 00:38:58.800
right

771
00:39:00.100 --> 00:39:03.400
on the other hand, right? We also have the no tuition approach in

772
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.200
 San Diego City College where 58% of

773
00:39:06.200 --> 00:39:09.700
 Voters voted for Joe Biden in 2020.

774
00:39:10.500 --> 00:39:13.500
So what you found and when I talked to students

775
00:39:13.500 --> 00:39:16.500
 there, I focused, you know on talking to students themselves.

776
00:39:18.600 --> 00:39:21.500
To a person they spoke of

777
00:39:21.500 --> 00:39:24.400
 the fact that they were they had been attracted to Columbia College because

778
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.500
 of the no tuition approach right these students

779
00:39:27.500 --> 00:39:30.500
 almost all of whom were white, right? We're drawn

780
00:39:30.500 --> 00:39:33.400
 to the Community College for

781
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.900
 the same reasons that the primarily black and brown students and

782
00:39:36.900 --> 00:39:38.600
 Fresno in Los Angeles and so forth.

783
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.900
Were drawn to Community College.

784
00:39:43.300 --> 00:39:44.000
beyond that

785
00:39:44.900 --> 00:39:47.600
many of the same existential threats

786
00:39:47.600 --> 00:39:50.200
 or existential threats, maybe not the

787
00:39:50.200 --> 00:39:51.400
 same existential threats, but

788
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.700
existential threats are just as deep and

789
00:39:55.700 --> 00:39:56.100
 just as

790
00:39:57.100 --> 00:39:58.800
you know just just as a

791
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.300
potentially destructive haunted the

792
00:40:04.300 --> 00:40:07.500
 space there, right and there was

793
00:40:07.500 --> 00:40:10.200
 no more apparent than just like going outside and breathing the

794
00:40:10.200 --> 00:40:10.400
 air.

795
00:40:11.200 --> 00:40:14.600
And Hospitality Hotel

796
00:40:14.600 --> 00:40:15.400
 staff and so forth.

797
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.400
Were at Great pains to system either the fires

798
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:21.400
 the Yosemite fires were very very far away.

799
00:40:22.200 --> 00:40:25.100
Which they were but the air blew the

800
00:40:25.100 --> 00:40:28.100
 smoke Trail West and actually thought I had covid for like a whole

801
00:40:28.100 --> 00:40:31.000
 day just couldn't breathe. I took like

802
00:40:31.300 --> 00:40:32.700
 three tests. It's okay. I don't know but

803
00:40:34.600 --> 00:40:35.400
you know the

804
00:40:36.600 --> 00:40:39.000
and we know from you know

805
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.600
 from from what's happened in paradise and other other

806
00:40:42.600 --> 00:40:46.100
 areas in these, you know, more far-flung

807
00:40:45.100 --> 00:40:48.600
 parts of our state that they

808
00:40:48.600 --> 00:40:51.500
 are the most exposed or we're all at threat really,

809
00:40:51.500 --> 00:40:54.800
 you know from the environmental Devastation, but

810
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:58.200
 they are most a threat from the wildfires really

811
00:40:57.200 --> 00:41:01.300
 only one bad day away from losing everything which

812
00:41:00.300 --> 00:41:03.900
 got to say is, you know, not unlike

813
00:41:03.900 --> 00:41:04.600
 in its

814
00:41:05.700 --> 00:41:07.600
tip sheer Terror and randomness

815
00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:12.000
the many existential threats that hard-working black and

816
00:41:11.700 --> 00:41:13.800
 Latino and Asian folks

817
00:41:14.500 --> 00:41:18.400
in our cities face every day as well. And as

818
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.300
 I left and came back to the Bay right the

819
00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:24.900
 you know, we just experienced it that you

820
00:41:24.900 --> 00:41:27.100
 know, the harshest Heat Wave the most intense heat

821
00:41:27.100 --> 00:41:30.200
 wave of our whole year was rising to meet all of us

822
00:41:30.200 --> 00:41:33.400
 from the Gold Country to the coast. It's really

823
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.700
 important that we remember these similarities.

824
00:41:37.300 --> 00:41:38.000
As well as our differences.

825
00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:40.500
Okay, that's all I got for you. So.

826
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:56.100
Okay, I think I'm supposed to

827
00:41:56.100 --> 00:42:00.700
 open the Florida questions. Again.

828
00:41:59.700 --> 00:42:02.200
 This is the way I'm

829
00:42:03.600 --> 00:42:07.400
kind of situating. This is that it will be the first essay in

830
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.900
 a book of essays about

831
00:42:09.900 --> 00:42:12.400
 different aspects of the community college system again,

832
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.900
 both practically, you know certain practical things

833
00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:18.100
 relate to my experience.

834
00:42:20.300 --> 00:42:23.300
working at that level and things that are going on now

835
00:42:23.300 --> 00:42:27.100
 post my Community College days, but also

836
00:42:28.300 --> 00:42:31.700
You know this more conceptual level at which I'm looking

837
00:42:31.700 --> 00:42:33.600
 at the system as sort of.

838
00:42:34.900 --> 00:42:37.000
a prism of you know am

839
00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:40.500
a miniature, California in miniature,

840
00:42:40.500 --> 00:42:40.800
 so

841
00:42:42.200 --> 00:42:43.800
Okay. Yeah anybody.

842
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:51.300
Um, California is a big stage and you've only done a

843
00:42:51.300 --> 00:42:55.100
 few community colleges. Are you planning to include others? Absolutely? Yeah.

844
00:42:54.100 --> 00:42:57.300
 So yeah, it's, you

845
00:42:57.300 --> 00:43:00.500
 know, it's not fun to drive around

846
00:43:00.500 --> 00:43:03.300
 and hundred degree heat from you know, one city the

847
00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:06.700
 next but yeah, I'm you know, I am going

848
00:43:06.700 --> 00:43:09.500
 to Sacramento City College. I've also

849
00:43:09.500 --> 00:43:12.900
 done a good deal of work on both Laney

850
00:43:12.900 --> 00:43:16.000
 College and Oakland and Evergreen mile Kyle

851
00:43:15.600 --> 00:43:18.200
 Community College in San Jose.

852
00:43:19.500 --> 00:43:22.900
So those are gonna you know looking at one one

853
00:43:22.900 --> 00:43:25.000
 to two colleges in each in each of

854
00:43:25.100 --> 00:43:29.400
 these regions. But yeah, I mean they're you know, 112 or

855
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.000
 115.

856
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.500
Community colleges throughout the state. So yeah, no matter

857
00:43:35.500 --> 00:43:38.700
 how many I get to it is going to necessarily, you

858
00:43:38.700 --> 00:43:41.300
 know, just be a snapshot right of the

859
00:43:41.300 --> 00:43:43.000
 total system. So

860
00:43:49.700 --> 00:43:51.800
yeah, that was really wonderful. Thank you.

861
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.900
The question I have is you started veering into

862
00:43:56.900 --> 00:43:59.800
 some more personal details

863
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.000
 about your family history and I've found

864
00:44:02.300 --> 00:44:05.400
 myself gravitating towards that as

865
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.500
 well and I'm wondering if you're going to be weaving some of that into

866
00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:11.500
 a few of the essays that you're working on in order

867
00:44:11.500 --> 00:44:15.100
 to give us a fuller picture. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, I

868
00:44:14.100 --> 00:44:15.100
 mean

869
00:44:16.300 --> 00:44:20.400
You know this this is not gonna be a textbook right that

870
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.300
 I'm a you know, I come from

871
00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:26.000
 my background is more in the personal essay. And so

872
00:44:25.600 --> 00:44:28.100
 that's sort of the foundation of my

873
00:44:28.100 --> 00:44:31.500
 work as an essays. So most certainly

874
00:44:31.500 --> 00:44:34.100
 most certainly I will

875
00:44:34.100 --> 00:44:37.400
 there's a lot more to you know

876
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.300
 to this part of or to to

877
00:44:40.300 --> 00:44:43.900
 that part of this essay, then I'm present it that

878
00:44:43.900 --> 00:44:45.600
 I was able to present the you know time given

879
00:44:47.100 --> 00:44:50.400
So so yeah in honestly like I'm

880
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:50.700
 learning.

881
00:44:51.700 --> 00:44:52.800
a lot about

882
00:44:54.200 --> 00:44:57.400
you know about black folks in the Central Valley and our history

883
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:58.700
 in the Central Valley and so forth.

884
00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:04.600
It's also and this is something else that the counselor Ernesto

885
00:45:04.600 --> 00:45:07.900
 cazarus brought up, you know, um, a lot of students coming

886
00:45:07.900 --> 00:45:10.200
 from Farm worker backgrounds. There's a

887
00:45:10.200 --> 00:45:14.300
 lot, you know, there can be embarrassment and shame right that

888
00:45:13.300 --> 00:45:16.500
 comes with, you know coming to, you

889
00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:19.400
 know, even a community college or State College

890
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:20.000
 State University.

891
00:45:22.200 --> 00:45:25.900
That we might not consider it an elite space but oftentimes, you

892
00:45:25.900 --> 00:45:28.400
 know, they will and even within my

893
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:32.200
 family that's something you know that you

894
00:45:31.200 --> 00:45:34.400
 know, they're a lot people have a lot of walls up right. It's

895
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.200
 not necessarily easy to you know to work around

896
00:45:37.200 --> 00:45:40.100
 those and to break through those in order

897
00:45:40.100 --> 00:45:43.300
 to in order to access that history which is not

898
00:45:43.300 --> 00:45:46.600
 you know, which which is not easily

899
00:45:46.600 --> 00:45:49.900
 accessible. Right? So so yeah,

900
00:45:49.900 --> 00:45:52.500
 it's a process. But yeah on the

901
00:45:52.500 --> 00:45:53.000
 road to it.

902
00:46:08.300 --> 00:46:11.800
Okay, so shall I take a couple questions from here? Okay.

903
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.100
 So the one question from

904
00:46:15.500 --> 00:46:20.000
Dimple will Chun mulchandani apologies?

905
00:46:18.300 --> 00:46:21.400
 In fact mispronounced your

906
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.900
 name the no tuition at La Community College in San Diego Community College.

907
00:46:24.900 --> 00:46:27.300
 Is that for international students as well?

908
00:46:29.200 --> 00:46:32.700
That of no would be

909
00:46:32.700 --> 00:46:37.400
 the would be the basic answer. But but you

910
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:37.800
 know it

911
00:46:39.600 --> 00:46:42.300
what I really want to get

912
00:46:42.300 --> 00:46:45.700
 at is that this is the that this

913
00:46:45.700 --> 00:46:48.100
 no tuition approach, you know, which is

914
00:46:48.100 --> 00:46:51.700
 basically part of the promise program California's promise

915
00:46:51.700 --> 00:46:54.500
 program is again Harbinger for

916
00:46:54.500 --> 00:46:58.300
 you know for things to come and is

917
00:46:57.300 --> 00:47:00.100
 likely to be

918
00:47:00.100 --> 00:47:00.800
 expanded.

919
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:04.300
To you know, more and more groups of students.

920
00:47:06.500 --> 00:47:08.500
you know, and so

921
00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:13.900
You know really there is just again this this confrontation between

922
00:47:13.900 --> 00:47:16.500
 these, you know, the the mounting student debt crisis

923
00:47:16.500 --> 00:47:19.900
 on the one hand and these efforts at you know,

924
00:47:19.900 --> 00:47:22.800
 really lowering the the cost burden

925
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.000
 for students. So

926
00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:28.500
yeah, um community college students face enormous challenges

927
00:47:28.500 --> 00:47:31.000
 Paul McNamara writes when transferring to

928
00:47:31.100 --> 00:47:34.700
 the CSU or you see mostly cultural Beyond curricular articulation. Are

929
00:47:34.700 --> 00:47:37.900
 you looking at the disparities that CCC

930
00:47:37.900 --> 00:47:40.300
 students face to actually graduate with the

931
00:47:40.300 --> 00:47:43.400
 ba or BS? For example at San Jose State the

932
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.300
 focus is on first time and other freshmen many fewer resources

933
00:47:46.300 --> 00:47:49.400
 and welcoming efforts for transfer students. It's similar throughout

934
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:50.300
 the state.

935
00:47:52.700 --> 00:47:55.700
Yeah, that's great point and I you know, really invite

936
00:47:55.700 --> 00:47:59.000
 students who both current

937
00:47:58.600 --> 00:48:01.100
 and former so that might

938
00:48:01.100 --> 00:48:04.600
 include anybody in this room anybody on this on this

939
00:48:04.600 --> 00:48:07.800
 Zoom webinar to share

940
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:08.900
 your experiences with me.

941
00:48:10.500 --> 00:48:13.400
K e e n a n dot n o r r i

942
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:16.600
 s at sjsu.edu. Yeah, feel

943
00:48:16.600 --> 00:48:17.600
 free to just get in touch with me.

944
00:48:19.300 --> 00:48:23.300
Yeah, I'm interested in a lot of different perspectives on

945
00:48:22.300 --> 00:48:25.400
 on the on the

946
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.100
 community college experience.

947
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:28.400
um

948
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.300
Pamela writes thank you for your thoughtful presentation. How do

949
00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:37.800
 we ensure community college students have multiple Pathways upon

950
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.800
 graduation that is ensuring transitions into four-year

951
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.800
 institutions as possible while being in better paying

952
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:43.800
 jobs.

953
00:48:46.200 --> 00:48:47.700
while being in better paying jobs

954
00:48:49.200 --> 00:48:49.700
Mm-hmm.

955
00:48:51.500 --> 00:48:51.900
Yeah, that's

956
00:48:53.500 --> 00:48:57.000
so I think if I'm understanding your question correctly, you

957
00:48:56.100 --> 00:49:00.000
 know has to do with professionalization right Pamela

958
00:48:59.900 --> 00:49:02.200
 and I think there are probably people in this

959
00:49:02.200 --> 00:49:05.100
 room who are better better equipped to

960
00:49:05.100 --> 00:49:08.500
 answer that than I am. But I think

961
00:49:08.500 --> 00:49:12.000
 again the community college is particularly

962
00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:15.100
 well situated to and

963
00:49:14.100 --> 00:49:17.700
 to the extent that the CSU and

964
00:49:17.700 --> 00:49:20.200
 even the UC adopt some of

965
00:49:20.200 --> 00:49:23.200
 the some of the same modes of

966
00:49:23.200 --> 00:49:27.200
 instructional delivery. I think,

967
00:49:27.200 --> 00:49:30.200
 you know the CCC because of its nature is

968
00:49:30.200 --> 00:49:33.000
 particularly well suited to to adapt to

969
00:49:34.500 --> 00:49:37.700
Um, you know to to changes in

970
00:49:37.700 --> 00:49:40.900
 the economy and to the needs

971
00:49:40.900 --> 00:49:42.400
 of students upon graduation.

972
00:49:44.200 --> 00:49:47.700
So one thing you find when you teach Community College

973
00:49:47.700 --> 00:49:51.200
 is that it's a really good barometer on it's

974
00:49:50.200 --> 00:49:54.300
 a really like on the ground barometer of changes

975
00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:56.500
 within the economy at any

976
00:49:56.500 --> 00:50:00.000
 one time. So like for example during the Great Recession, you

977
00:49:59.200 --> 00:50:02.700
 saw you know, suddenly there all these construction workers,

978
00:50:02.700 --> 00:50:05.600
 you know who are in our classes, right? Because homes

979
00:50:05.600 --> 00:50:09.000
 were being built and now all these people need

980
00:50:08.200 --> 00:50:12.300
 it, you know new new skills

981
00:50:11.300 --> 00:50:14.900
 training, right and that's very different frankly

982
00:50:14.900 --> 00:50:17.500
 from the experience that you have teaching it Berkeley or

983
00:50:17.500 --> 00:50:20.500
 it's Stanford, you know, you're not going to get nearly as

984
00:50:20.500 --> 00:50:24.000
 many of those students directly, you

985
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.100
 know after their

986
00:50:27.600 --> 00:50:30.100
You know after being laid off for the most

987
00:50:30.100 --> 00:50:33.600
 part so because the CCC is

988
00:50:33.600 --> 00:50:37.400
 sort of more on that ground level where people

989
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.600
 are experiencing those economic shocks and

990
00:50:39.600 --> 00:50:40.900
 then having to respond to them.

991
00:50:42.500 --> 00:50:45.800
You do you do see that. So I'm I'm interested in

992
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.600
 the ways in the sort of.

993
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:52.200
immediately reactive nature of of

994
00:50:51.200 --> 00:50:54.300
 the Community College both at the administrative level

995
00:50:54.300 --> 00:50:57.400
 which is I think where your question is focused but

996
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.900
 also at the experiential level for professors and

997
00:51:00.900 --> 00:51:01.500
 students, so

998
00:51:03.600 --> 00:51:04.000
Yeah.

999
00:51:05.500 --> 00:51:08.200
Yeah, so I want to say I really appreciate you going into your

1000
00:51:08.200 --> 00:51:11.400
 family sister just because I'm also from the Central

1001
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.300
 Valley as well too. So my family's from Delano and

1002
00:51:14.300 --> 00:51:17.000
 Tulare and so you're talking about

1003
00:51:17.300 --> 00:51:20.100
 your grandma. Right? And I have a similar experience my grandma

1004
00:51:20.100 --> 00:51:23.400
 too. She grew up in a Tulare area and she went to Fresno City

1005
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.100
 College and she went to Fresno State as well too and got her ba there.

1006
00:51:26.100 --> 00:51:29.100
 And so like you said

1007
00:51:29.100 --> 00:51:32.700
 like that Community College is really a fundamental part of kind

1008
00:51:32.700 --> 00:51:35.900
 of like I say people in not

1009
00:51:35.900 --> 00:51:38.400
 that and marginalized conditions to uplift themselves, right

1010
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.100
 and even within the Leno per se

1011
00:51:41.100 --> 00:51:44.400
 right now, I would think that there's a lot of high school students.

1012
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.400
 I think it's probably a good like something to think about

1013
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:50.700
 is a lot of students who in these

1014
00:51:50.700 --> 00:51:53.600
 in these communities. They do take extra courses

1015
00:51:53.600 --> 00:51:57.000
 at community colleges as well too right to able

1016
00:51:56.100 --> 00:51:59.100
 to get into to get some

1017
00:51:59.100 --> 00:52:02.100
 extra credit or be able to get their aa's faster, you know, so I

1018
00:52:02.100 --> 00:52:04.400
 think that like kind of like focusing on the

1019
00:52:05.500 --> 00:52:08.400
The perspectives of high school students who are taking college courses

1020
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.400
 a little bit. You know, I think will be really interesting perspective. Yeah,

1021
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:14.600
 I appreciate the the suggestion. I

1022
00:52:14.600 --> 00:52:17.100
 will definitely take that account right again. This is a work in

1023
00:52:17.100 --> 00:52:20.300
 progress. So I'm as interested in feedback on ways.

1024
00:52:20.300 --> 00:52:23.600
 I could expand or think differently about this project as

1025
00:52:23.600 --> 00:52:26.200
 I am in you know, just sort of pounding what I think right

1026
00:52:26.200 --> 00:52:29.500
 now, right? So thank you. First of all, I do want to just

1027
00:52:29.500 --> 00:52:32.000
 slightly correct one thing you said, um,

1028
00:52:32.900 --> 00:52:35.300
 which is that I was not relating the experience of my grandmother

1029
00:52:35.300 --> 00:52:39.000
 that was experience my mother and I think that it's all

1030
00:52:38.100 --> 00:52:41.300
 good. I think that one thing

1031
00:52:41.300 --> 00:52:45.300
 and I'm not like focusing on you but is that

1032
00:52:45.300 --> 00:52:48.200
 we sometimes have a tendency to think about these things as being like

1033
00:52:48.200 --> 00:52:49.300
 way deep in the past.

1034
00:52:50.200 --> 00:52:54.000
Like this level of Injustice this level of economic Injustice,

1035
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.600
 but you know, I'm 41

1036
00:52:56.600 --> 00:52:59.900
 years old, right? That was my mother right

1037
00:52:59.900 --> 00:53:02.600
 who was working six cents a row thousand

1038
00:53:02.600 --> 00:53:05.600
 rows a day, right basically until

1039
00:53:05.600 --> 00:53:06.200
 she went to college.

1040
00:53:08.700 --> 00:53:11.800
Um, yeah picking and thank you for that. I'm really

1041
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:14.600
 sort of fascinated by the point

1042
00:53:14.600 --> 00:53:18.200
 you made early in your talk about the inevitable confrontation

1043
00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:20.400
 of the CC and the CC

1044
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.500
 and I wondered if you'd be willing to speculate

1045
00:53:23.500 --> 00:53:26.300
 about what you think that might

1046
00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:29.400
 look like at some point in the future or the

1047
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:30.100
 present.

1048
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.700
okay, I mean

1049
00:53:36.600 --> 00:53:39.500
Now, I mean, that's that's

1050
00:53:39.500 --> 00:53:42.600
 a good that's a good question Ryan.

1051
00:53:42.600 --> 00:53:43.700
 Thank you for your question.

1052
00:53:45.600 --> 00:53:48.200
Huh? I mean I just think I I

1053
00:53:48.200 --> 00:53:51.500
 you know, my you know, just speaking very

1054
00:53:51.500 --> 00:53:54.400
 bluntly. I think this is the essential like

1055
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:58.400
This essential split, you know it in American

1056
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:02.200
 history, right? I mean, this is a country that's founded by slaveholders that

1057
00:54:02.200 --> 00:54:05.300
 you know said they were escaping slavery because

1058
00:54:05.300 --> 00:54:06.700
 they didn't like their tax situation.

1059
00:54:08.900 --> 00:54:09.200
and

1060
00:54:10.200 --> 00:54:13.200
You know up against you know, all all the different

1061
00:54:13.200 --> 00:54:16.400
 classes of disenfranchised people in

1062
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:19.700
 this country. So I mean starting from you know, that rather

1063
00:54:19.700 --> 00:54:23.200
 inequitable basis, right? We you know,

1064
00:54:23.200 --> 00:54:26.200
 we've always had this, you know, the this basic tension,

1065
00:54:26.200 --> 00:54:30.100
 I mean, honestly if I look outside right

1066
00:54:29.100 --> 00:54:32.200
 not directly outside, but

1067
00:54:32.200 --> 00:54:35.300
 you know a little further down, you know, I I see the

1068
00:54:35.300 --> 00:54:35.900
 country club winning.

1069
00:54:37.100 --> 00:54:41.400
But I also see that you know, we got the numbers. So, um,

1070
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:42.300
 yeah just

1071
00:54:43.500 --> 00:54:46.300
I don't know. But right now I see

1072
00:54:46.300 --> 00:54:49.500
 the country club link. I think we have time for one more question so that

1073
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 you know.

1074
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And I need your microphone. So people getting here

1075
00:54:54.500 --> 00:54:57.500
 you online. Yes, and I'm now

1076
00:54:57.500 --> 00:55:00.400
 a faculty advisor and faculty in this

1077
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.500
 journalism and what I

1078
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.500
and orientation days and

1079
00:55:06.500 --> 00:55:07.100
 things like that.

1080
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I don't understand why we don't have people

1081
00:55:11.700 --> 00:55:14.300
 who were products or our products

1082
00:55:14.300 --> 00:55:19.100
 of the community college system running those orientations. And

1083
00:55:18.100 --> 00:55:21.200
 then the other thing is that I'm noticing a lot.

1084
00:55:21.200 --> 00:55:24.300
 We don't have enough mentoring for

1085
00:55:24.300 --> 00:55:29.000
 our community college students and there are so many barricades.

1086
00:55:27.700 --> 00:55:30.600
 I have never seen

1087
00:55:30.600 --> 00:55:33.800
 so many blocks and so many holds on

1088
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:36.500
 accounts it just as one example, one of

1089
00:55:36.500 --> 00:55:39.600
 my community college student transfer accidentally put

1090
00:55:39.600 --> 00:55:41.300
 West Valley instead of Foothill.

1091
00:55:42.300 --> 00:55:45.600
And all of his GE had already been transferred from

1092
00:55:45.600 --> 00:55:48.600
 Evergreen College. He already had an AA and

1093
00:55:48.600 --> 00:55:51.000
 as his advisor. I'm trying to talk to the

1094
00:55:51.700 --> 00:55:54.400
 registrar and and the dean and every anyone who would listen.

1095
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:57.600
 Can you please let the student enroll in

1096
00:55:57.600 --> 00:55:57.900
 classes?

1097
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.100
At this institution where enrollment is down.

1098
00:56:02.700 --> 00:56:05.400
And he had to drive over to West

1099
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.400
 Valley yesterday physically and get

1100
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.900
 proof stamped that he had never

1101
00:56:11.900 --> 00:56:14.900
 been a student there. And then the registrar didn't

1102
00:56:14.900 --> 00:56:17.300
 want to take it. This is well. We'll have to wait two or

1103
00:56:17.300 --> 00:56:20.400
 three days for an email since when does

1104
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.300
 an email take two or three days? We finally got him through but I

1105
00:56:23.300 --> 00:56:26.300
 mean, we've got to look at putting up fewer blocks

1106
00:56:26.300 --> 00:56:31.200
 and I think doing a little bit more mentoring from

1107
00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:32.300
 other students and from

1108
00:56:32.300 --> 00:56:32.900
 other faculty.

1109
00:56:33.600 --> 00:56:36.400
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree

1110
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:37.000
 and I think

1111
00:56:38.200 --> 00:56:41.800
Yeah, having people who have direct experience, right

1112
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.500
 this kind of goes to earlier question

1113
00:56:44.500 --> 00:56:47.800
 or earlier statement that somebody made in the

1114
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:49.400
 chat, I believe. Um,

1115
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.500
yeah, we need folks with you know,

1116
00:56:53.500 --> 00:56:56.100
 direct experience and best direct sensitivities, right?

1117
00:56:57.700 --> 00:57:00.200
Yeah, because someone is so such a high percentage

1118
00:57:00.200 --> 00:57:04.200
 of our students are coming from the CC right here so

1119
00:57:03.200 --> 00:57:04.700
 in

1120
00:57:05.500 --> 00:57:08.500
People in administrative and faculty roles who have

1121
00:57:08.500 --> 00:57:09.800
 that experience. Yeah.

1122
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:18.000
Yeah. Yeah, your point is very well taken.

1123
00:57:18.700 --> 00:57:21.200
Yeah. All right. All right. Well,

1124
00:57:21.200 --> 00:57:25.600
 I I think we should all thank Keenan very much pronouncing talk.

1125
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:29.200
I just want to say

1126
00:57:30.100 --> 00:57:34.100
Good thing the Provost is here to hear that. So maybe that something work

1127
00:57:33.100 --> 00:57:36.100
 on and I also want to

1128
00:57:36.100 --> 00:57:39.500
 say comic con was the second thing that came up under San Diego

1129
00:57:39.500 --> 00:57:42.700
 CC just so, you know, the Community College wasn't

1130
00:57:42.700 --> 00:57:45.400
 even number two in the in the list. Anyway again,

1131
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:48.200
 thank you very much. Can you thank you for everybody being here. Thank you

1132
00:57:48.200 --> 00:57:52.100
 to everyone online. Really appreciate. It's amazing conversation more

1133
00:57:51.100 --> 00:57:54.200
 to come. I have a feeling I know what we're gonna

1134
00:57:54.200 --> 00:57:57.300
 hand or transfer students next fall when they come in. It's a

1135
00:57:57.300 --> 00:58:00.200
 chapter from your book so that they could start to read and engage it. So,

1136
00:58:00.200 --> 00:58:01.000
 thank you everyone.

1137
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here